to go to an awful lot of trouble to get these guns. connecticut has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. that means going down to the state police, filling out the forms, get, fingerprinted and waiting to hear back that she was approved fair handgun permit, then getting an f.b.i. background check, and waiting for that period and picking the weapons up. it's not one of those things where you show up with a driver's license and make the purchase. as we learned from the landscaper, she enjoyed shooting. we spoke to another relative who also said she was worried about the defense of her home, if there was a collapse of the economy, she wanted to have weapons on hand to defend them, which,sh, only underscores the irony that those were the guns used by her own child to kill her and so many others. >> axelrod: john miller in new york, thank you. as this community comes to grips with the loss of so many lives, late today we heard from the father of one of the first graders slain yesterday.